Well... try number 3. Here are some shots. Click on the thumbnail for a bigger version and a description of the hole. I have very little elevation right now so I'm sticking to overheads, but once AuroraT1 gets on the elevation there will be better pictures up here. The first one contains a 3-D picture and the textures (Rolling Evergreen's). Please e-mail KnickNut3@home.com with any ideas, comments, or suggestions!